Need a bigger charger?
Hello Kevin,
My marine electrical system currently includes one maintenance free starting battery (Group 24) and one AGM maintenance free deep cycle battery (also Group 24). I have the Guest 2611A battery charger attached to these two batteries for charging at the dock.
I was considering putting in a second deep cycle battery to provide more accessory time while out on the water and my plan would be to configure the boat wiring to connect it to the other deep cycle battery ‘in parallel’.
Would my 2611A charger be capable to charging these three batteries?
Thank-you
John
Hi John,
YES, but it will take a very long time to completely recharge.
The 2611 only puts out five amps max on each leg. Two dead batteries connected to one of the legs will take close to 2 days to recharge. Guest makes excellent products, but you may want to consider one of their larger units for your marine electrical system.
Kevin
Kevin,
Thank you for your response.
Generally when our charger is on it has a couple of days between uses so I’m not as concerned about the time it would take to recharge. And I would think that making the 5-6 mile run back to the marina with the Switch in the “All” setting would give the batteries a bit of a charge from the alternator as well.
I just wanted to make sure there were no safety issues. So if I put a third battery (a deep cycle) in the boat and connect its positive to the other deep cycle’s positive with a jumper and similarly connect up their negative terminals – when I put the switch on “2” the accessories would pull from both deep cycles and, in theory, I would get more accessory time?
I guess I just want to see if I can get by with my current switch and charger or do I need a more robust switch and charger to have three batteries.
Thanks again (and I will make a contribution via PayPal)
John
Hi John,
Adding a third battery in parallel to your second is a very common boat wiring practice.
When you do this, make sure that you use cables that are at least as large as the largest cables that are currently used on the battery switch system.
Kevin
Kevin,
Thanks again.
I was hoping to get the cables this week and won’t have access to the boat before then so I may have to guess. Do you think four AWG would be safe for a basic speedboat (24’ Malibu Wakesetter)?
John
John,
It’s really funny that you should ask that!
I’m just finishing a downloadable Battery Cable Calculator. I’ll post it in the next day or two for all of our readers.
Kevin
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AC/DC Separation
Kevin,
I am installing the EzAcDc marine shore power system. Could you please clear something up for me?
Is it OK to have the AC and the DC panels in the same area as long as you don’t group the wires together?
I had read to keep the AC and DC apart in marine electrical systems, but I am not sure if that meant just to space wires apart so they don’t chafe through and connect systems or if they needed further separation.
Thanks.
Mike
Hi Mike,
Yes. It is OK to have both panels in the same area.
Per the American Boat and Yacht Council, if the AC system and DC system are on the same panel, then the AC system needs to have an enclosure to prevent accidental contact when you are working on the DC side. Even though it is not required, the EzAcDc Easy Add AC panel has rear safety enclosure.
When installing AC and DC boat wiring, it is a good practice to separate the AC and DC wiring because most AC HOT wires are black and most DC GROUND wires are black. Accidental swapping would be very dangerous.
I hope that this is helpful. Please let me know if you have any other questions about your project.
Kevin
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Barbara Young on Solar Panels
Easy Ac/Dc Boat Wiring is pleased to present a guest article on solar panels from Barbara Young.
Barbara writes on solar panel kits and 12 volt systems in her personal hobby blog, 12voltsolarpanels.net. Her efforts are centered on helping people save energy using solar power to reduce CO2 emissions and energy dependency. And, to further those efforts, Barbara generously offered the following overview to those of us in the marine electrical community.
What’s solar power?
Solar energy is radiant energy which is produced by the sun. Every day the sun radiates, or sends out, an immense quantity of energy. The sun radiates more energy in a single second than people have used since the beginning of time!
The energy of the Sun derives from within the sun itself. Like other stars, the sun is a big ball of gases––mostly hydrogen and helium atoms.
The hydrogen atoms in the sun’s core combine to create helium and generate energy in a process called nuclear fusion.
During nuclear fusion, the sun’s extremely high pressure and temperature cause hydrogen atoms to come apart and their nuclei (the central cores of the atoms) to fuse or combine. Four hydrogen nuclei fuse to become one helium atom. But the helium atom contains less mass compared to four hydrogen atoms that fused. Some matter is lost during nuclear fusion. The lost matter is emitted into space as radiant energy.
It takes an incredible number of years for the energy in the sun’s core to make its way to the solar surface, and then just a little over eight minutes to travel the 93 million miles to earth. The solar energy travels to the earth…Please click here for Barbara’s complete article.
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OK to ignore extra wires?
Kevin,
I bought a four-position switch to replace my four-position/four-terminal switch on my Mercury Marine 5.0 MPI’s boat wiring.
The problem is the new switch has arrived and has six wires. The extra two say 5 and 6 position are for the battery and ignition – as shown in the attached picture.
Should I ignore these and cut the wires off or should I connect them to 1 and 4?
Do I need a different switch?
Dan
Hi Dan,
This switch will work fine.
Ignore positions 5 and 6. They are internally connected to 1 and 4. You can either cut them off or tape them up.
Kevin
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